#296 Procurement: The Other Side of The Sales Coin

Notes:

Having someone who worked on the procurement side, the vendor side, and the value-added reseller side in a condensed period allows us to ask many questions and get a holistic view of these different roles. 

Our guest, Wesley Bellman has that exact experience in addition to a few more, so we get to see the similarities of working in procurement and how they interacted with VARs. 

Key Takeaways:

  • How the military benefited Wesley’s ability to be better as a Sales Engineer
  • Using mentors to emulate and become a sales engineer
  • Going from Customer to Vendor
  • The benefits of going to a Value Added Reseller
  • Enablement of Sales Engineers vs handcuffing SEs.
  • Improving and getting creative as a sales engineer 
  • How Wesley was invited to the podcast

Quotes:

“Sales and procurement are two sides of the same coin” – Ramzi Marjaba

“I didn’t really get a lot out of that kind of organized training. I most of what I learned was on my own time. And when I was able to get access to the technology in a way that I could play with it, build some things.” – Wesley Belleman

“Sometimes people overuse the sports analogy. I think because in sports like the, yeah.  the, like, a lot of the rules are the same over a long period of time. Uh, versus in business, for example at Palo Alto, they’re acquiring a new company every few months. And so the things that you have to be able to talk to a customer about or demo a customer, the software’s constantly changing.” – Wesley Belleman

“I was just talking to a brand new SE and he has no idea if he’s doing things right or wrong, which reminded me of myself. When I became an SE, it took me a year and a half to know that I was doing things wrong.  I was very creative doing this. Pray and pray. I made jokes all the time,  but it was still and pray.” Ramzi Marjaba

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Music on the show: Watchmaker’s Daughter by Reeder